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Penguin is probably the only person who will read this, check out the overclock page, they got it to 4.35ghz on the quad core, on air, with a low voltage setting.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/1 ... e_qx9650/1

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=O!!! I dunno if nahelm is worth waiting for now..

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Witchcraft i say!

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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I think I would rather see what AMD puts out before I say "wow."

Clock speeds don't really mean much anymore, which is why I'm waiting for [insert AMDs chip-name]. From what I hear though, is that it will do more work with a lower clock rating.

Wait for the benchmarks is what I say

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were getting so many processors now that it doesn't matter, by 2010 well have an 64 core processor. Who the hell needs so many? (expet for business and other)

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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Display, just FYI, your chip is 20% more powerful clock for clock than the best amd out there.

This chip is 20% more powerful clock for clock that YOUR chip.

The newer AMD's have been tested (the ones that come out next year), and still only can match your chip, and dont clock as high, they max out below 3ghz, your current chip will do 3.2 easily and is now a year old.

These are hitting 4.3+, so the new amd's would have to run at 5.16 to match the penyrn chips.

Now amd may have something else coming out, but not this year, or even early next, looks really bad for amd.

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AMD's phenom chips = teh blows..

They reduced the clocks speeds, yet claim "Our bigger HT makes up for it!" Then why is it that the bench's claim they are, as Cole said, just BARELY passing the old C2's?

I'll probably get a Wolfdale later on down the road, then upgrade to nahelm at 8core

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can i download that onto my commodore 64?

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Fun Fact: "Beer Can" pronounced with an English Accent is "bacon" pronounced in Jamaican

Ohhh, i need some of that with my TI 84 Plus

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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I haven't seen the benchmarks yet, and I've been looking around for them - Can someone post a link?

(NOT Barcelona_-)

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Barcelona came out this year, send me a link to their next year's chip.

Iirc, Barcelona was released September, it's primary goal was to get AMD into the Quad-Core market (it's not a true Quad though, which why I wasn't going impressed with it in the first place). Yeah, there not as great performance wise compared to Core2 but I'm pretty sure they`re cheaper (I could be totally wrong about that though).

I don't know what there new chips are currently called, but they use AMDs newish K10 microtech. and I haven't seen any benchmarks on it.

On Topic though, Intel's chips performance compared to AMDs current chips are on the same level - it's just Penryn's overclock potential is huge, which like I said earlier, doesn't strike me as too impressive until I see what next year's AMD chips can do. If there more efficient at a lower clock rating, which I'm willing to bet will be the case, then I'm all in.

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I dont see how you can say they compare to the same level. Maybe dollar/performance they compare, but clock for clock, current intel to current amd, intel is about 20% more powerful.

Maybe this is what you see, right now 2.6amd $120, 2.66intel, $190, but the amd would have to run at 3.2ghz to keep up with the 2.66intel, and on top of that, I have overclocked the 2.66intel to 3.4 many times (my roomate has a 2.16intel running at 3.4 for 2-3 months now). That amd would have to run at 4.08 to keep up with a 3.4 intel, and the amd's have trouble touching 3.0 (unless you buy the 3.2 which is their top chip, but cost 210).

So you can compare these 2 chips, because they will bench ~ the same, except the amd will make more heat.
2.66 Intel $190 (can overclock +.8ghz easily)
3.2 AMD $210 (can overclock +.2-.3ghz)

AMD's next chip is "# K10 microarchitecture - Also known as K8L, 10h, or Barcelona (after the first processor using this microarchitecture) the K10 microarchitecture is a new architecture with native quad core, shared level 3 cache, 128-bit floating point units, and HyperTransport 3.0." Which will be named Phenom for the desktop version.

So = Phemon = Barcelona, and here is a review, where they setup a Barcelona like a Phenom and tested it for games.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=3092

Here are some highlights:
"Things are different on the desktop; AMD hasn't been competitive since the launch of Core 2 in the Summer of 2006 and we're very worried that even after Phenom's late-year launch, the market still won't be competitive. While that's great for consumers today, the concern is that a non-competive AMD will bring about a more complacent Intel, which we do not want. We want the hungry Intel that we've enjoyed for the past year, we want ridiculous performance and aggressive pricing, and we won't get that without an AMD that can fight.

But AMD won't tell us anything about how Phenom will perform, other than that it will be competitive with Conroe/Kentsfield. So the goal here today is to get an idea of exactly how much faster Barcelona (the same core that'll be in Phenom X4) will be compared to the Athlon 64 X2. "

"With a 10 - 15% increase in performance on average, Phenom should be more competitive than K8 was on the desktop"

So it looks like the phenom will only compete with the current intel chips, not the Penryn that will be out at the same time as Phenom, both are expected early 2008.

Then intel has a bad assssssss chip coming out 2009 (nehalm), 8 cores, using the same chip connect that amd uses (hyper transport) instead of the FSB, and on board memory controller (just like amd), plus a built in video processor to help offload the video card.



Edit: I am not biased in this, I just am stating the facts, this is what is really funny.... my last computer, that I used for over 1.5 years... is a AMD, my current computer, is a AMD, the teamspeak server is a AMD....... Display is using a Intel. I simply buy what is best at the time, but I really really do hope AMD produces a Intel crusher, that way intel will fire right back, the competition is great for us, the consumer, without amd we would all be using 4.2ghz pentium 4's right now (which has 1/4 the power of display's chip).

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Nahelm = GOD!!!

I thought that's what I heard about the new AMD chips, "Only competitive against current Intel chips"... Yeah, I think I'll go Penryn till 08. Get a cheap chip, overclock the hell out of it. When Nahelm comes out, upgrade for a good five years right there.

Now lets just hope Intel doesn't pull that whole "Oh, we need to lower clockspeeds" crap like AMD did with Phenom because "It didn't live up to expectations from developement department." They lowered all clockspeeds by .1-.4ghz =\

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Thats what im doing, in about 3 months im buying the Penryn equivalent to this:
$80 Antec case w/psu
$130 Gigabyte mb (currently P35)
$60 2gb DDR2-800
$180 2.66 core2 duo
$30 DVD Burner
$260 8800gt
$60 Zalman cpu cooler

By Jan-Feb the prices of all of this will be more like 700, I may even get a cheaper vid card and save 100, if DDR3 drops in price by then, will get it, if x38 drops, etc, you get my point. I could get it right now, and OC to 3.4ish, or wait to feb and OC to 4.3 (with around 20% more power too).

I will use this computer for like a year then sell it (for like 500-600 or so, whatever it is worth) when I can build a Nehalm beast.

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