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Bible is a guide book, not a tech manual. Like chicken soup for the soul and a computer manual. If you think of it that way it's a bit easier to understand. When it says six days who knows or honestly cares what that meant. It was written so that primitive man could comprehend it.

Actually science and religion do not mix together. Both of them oppose each other. One is based in faith and the other is based in facts. Of course I'm talking about the religions we have today. I do believe that there could be a creature that is way more evolve than us that can do things we yet cannot understand or comprehend which would make them a miracle.Although, this being also came the same way we did. As for the big bang, there is the two theories that the universe will expand forever or it will collapse back again into singularity (The big crunch). Also keep in mind that just because it says theory on the end of it doesn't make it a random guess. Theories are made from what evidence we have. As soon as there is evidence that is wrong, the whole theory is thrown out.

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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What you meant was "science and religion do not mix together for some people." Because it sure mixes just fine for me. Science is something that is based on facts and theories, while religion is based on faith, very true, faith is for the things that I have have not yet been explained to how it works, but I know it does work. I have faith that atoms came from somewhere, we do not know where, but they sure came from somewhere and I have faith in them because they exist.

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I guess I mean Creationist way. As in God always existed and was not created by another being and then created life and such.


*Edit* Just because you combine science with religion it does not make it right. Science proves religion wrong. (By religion I mean known religions, you may have your own personal God that has different rules of how he/she/it came to be that are reasonable and be able to happen with in the realm of science)

Double Edit After rereading* Just because you don't know where something came from does not need to put a god to explain it. I believe that's one way of how religion came to be. People couldn't explain things so they reinforced on the idea of that there is a god/gods doing things.

Either way, I'm currently reading The God Delusion (yes yes yes, atheist stereotype and what not) but I got to say it explains a lot of things ( most things way better than I can explain). Give it a reading when you can. If your religious, it will question your beliefs which if you believe strongly enough will make your faith stronger. If your in between it will explain a lot.

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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IMHO it's an outdated manual. We should make another one...

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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Just to clarify the pair theory (everything in the universe created in pairs) does not contradict with religion. I have read most of the Bible and Quran, I can testify that nothing in those two books (as to my knowledge) disagrees with the theory, even in asexual reproduction. In fact I know some verses that enforce the theory. If anyone wants to read them pm me anytime.

Yes many people can argue that most of the holy books were lost in translation but that doesn't mean there's not enough evidence in those books to suggest it wasn't inspired by man. eg. Scientific facts mentioned in those books are countless and were discovered hundreds of years later.



Give an example maybe of how science proved religion wrong. A scientific fact vs a Verse that denies it.

People simply just replaced the idea of God with a theory of their own to explain things, which they never proved but believe in just like the rest of us believe in God. If you want to believe in theories based on "what evidence we have" but cannot be proven go ahead. Its exactly the same as having faith in something you cant see for yourself or prove.Its an endless debate.

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The thing is with science you constantly try to get new evidence to prove that theory right. People do constantly challenge that with observation and experimentation. As in with religion it is stopped right away since the gap is simply filled with god. The thing question that easily asked about the existence of god is his own origin. By the way, there are different definitions of god.

I love to see those verses. I personally don't see Scientology or Mormonism any different from Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

I don't have time at the moment to keep writing but again, I suggest reading The God Delusion, good book.

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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I don't think science will ever dissaprove the existence of a God, you (corn) say is does, buy what you are saying it is it disapproves what some extremist or old books say, books are just words written by man. I don't use God to fill in the gaps, but that is the way I see it.

There are too many "1 in a trillion" coincidences out there. For instance, the sun and the moon are the EXACT same size in our sky, its how we get a total eclipse, yet the 2 objects are proportionally HUGELY different sizes, and different distances, but it just so happens that we were lucky enough to have them exactly line up in our sky to appear to be the exact same size. The moon was created by a large object striking the earth when the earth was still pretty much a molten ball, it deposited some material, and took some, and went into orbit, as a man of science I know the likelihood of this happening and settling in perfect orbit to where it appears in our sky to be the same size could never be repeated, you could try all you want, but everything for us has lined up perfect in ever aspect, livable temp, oxygen, water in a liquid form (at our temp), and creation of life. PS, I do believe in evolution, I don't think man was just created, that is just a story.

I do believe there is life out there on other planets (single cell), and a good chance of intelligent life, but I don't think we will find intelligent life anytime soon (next few thousand years), unless they find us.

I hate these topics because most people try to change other peoples opinion, and its not going to happen, nothing is accomplished in these topics except drawing lines and people moving to their side of the line, some people like me can stay civil but it always ends badly if let get out of control, so how about we just move on...

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my thoughts are like cole's and sword's

here's how i see it, God created life as we know it, atoms and all, and God knows how to manipulate the stuff that God created (trying not to say he/she cuz we don't know if it's either of that or none of that), and we try to learn it (through science and that's why there's a science vs religion debate cuz we can do it), i don't believe in the impossible, but i believe that it's unlikely to happen (big bang, end of the world, etc.) i believe God had people create organized religion so people can feel like they have a purpose in life (and feel content), which is to serve God, there's more i believe in, but i only have 3 hours to play a day, unless it's the weekend, so imma stop here on my opinion

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"In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." - James Stewart

That's why I asked what type of god. You Cole have your own personal god. I am totally for that. What I trully dislike and I'm against is the church. It is clearly easier to control many individuals wit the same belief than different individuals with different beliefs.

“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, that's the job for other atheist. I'm just here to enjoy the show.
BTW, do read The God Delusion cursed, you'll find it quite interesting.

All in all, I would have passed this if there were other questions.

Here is one that you guys could help me with: Why does Fallout 3 keeps crashing on me when I try to start a game? (been pissing me off)

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"He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic..."

After I'm gone your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be...

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Religion caused so many wars in this world.

So has science.... SCIENCE DAMN YOU:

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